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Jul. 20th, 2007 09:54 am
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Clearly my last poll was a little controversial. So let's try this again. These things:





[Poll #1024913]

(You can click on the pictures to see larger versions, although the level of detail still isn't that great -- sorry.)

Date: 2007-07-20 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doctroid.livejournal.com
What I've heard, repeatedly, is that the pineapple was a symbol of welcome in colonial and early Federal America (and maybe elsewhere). I have not until this day heard of anyone claiming this is wrong and that the symbol was a pine cone.

However, on the question of what those things are supposed to be in your two particular photos, I will take a position of agnosticism. If forced to the wall I'd guess they're both pineapples (especially the second), but who knows? Maybe the arch designer really really liked pine cones.

Date: 2007-07-20 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saucypunk.livejournal.com
when I first moved to Providence, I was told the one on Federal Hill was a pineapple, but I've always maintained it looks a lot more like a pinecone.

Date: 2007-07-20 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stumpsforhands.livejournal.com
Speaking for myself, I'm not claiming that a pineapple was or is not a symbol of welcome in colonial America or otherwise. What I am claiming is that a pine cone is an Italian symbol of prosperity, and that it is the pigna that adorns that arch, which greets those who enter Providence's little-Italy neighborhood, Federal Hill.

Date: 2007-07-20 03:51 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (anime - (c) 2002 jim vandewalker)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
I think it's tricky because pigna (pinecone in Italian) and piƱa (pineapple in Spanish) are pronounced the same way. But the thing in the arch does not resemble a pineapple because a pineapple has a rounded bottom, not a pointy bottom.

Who's to say

Date: 2007-07-20 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notr.livejournal.com
they didn't chop the leaves off the top, leave the ones on the bottom, and hang it upside-down like any normal fruit that grows down from the stem?

I have to confess I don't recognize this as even a vaguely familiar motif, and I never heard of that preposterous pineapple cupola before.

Date: 2007-07-20 11:34 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
A pineapple does not have a pointy top, either.

Date: 2007-07-25 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plorkwort.livejournal.com
I was very pleased when I finally found a copy at a used book store about a year ago, but I was disappointed to find that rereading it didn't have the same peculiar effect as it had the first time.

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