menace to society

[jwgh]

Hey, here's a poll brought about by thinking about certain things too much!

[Poll #707665]

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[stumpsforhands.livejournal.com]

I should mention, though, in a weird defense of those that hate me, that it's not fair to compare distrust of atheists to distrust of blacks or homosexuals, or other groups that are identified by genetics, conditions of being with which they were born and cannot change, since that has less to do with who they are than their belief systems. Although it doesn't excuse the apparently rampant belief that all atheists are evil, drug-addicted criminals who have no morals and survive on a steady diet of Christian babies. I can say as an atheist that none of those things are true about me. I am concerned with ethics and the well-being of my fellow man; I do not drink of do any drugs; and I don't even like the taste of Christian babies. They're too gamey; I prefer Jew babies.

[jwgh]

A friend who was at the hearings said that those opposed to gay marriage tended to use terms like 'homosexual agenda', 'social experiment', and 'lifestyle choice'. I think in general people who don't like homosexuals usually describe sexual preference as a choice rather than as a genetic thing. (Although I don't think that they necessarily consider themselves to have chosen to be straight, with some exceptions.)

Racism is different, but most everyone denies being racist. For instance, here is a noted non-racist.

[ceruleanst.livejournal.com]

This is part of the problem. We're supposed to believe in freedom of choice in this country, but there's this idea going around that you don't have any rights unless your minority status is inborn. A lot gay rights activists hate bisexuals because it undermines their case that sexuality is 100% inborn and just like race. Why does it have to be just like race?

I'm a fvcking furry. Oh noes, sexy cartoons. When I want people to stop spreading lies, calling for our extermination, et cetera, I'm told "shut up, you're not oppressed, you're not a real minority, so you have no right to complain when we attack you." If I didn't have the right to complain, react or fight back, if I really had to sit there and take it, wouldn't that mean I was oppressed? I'm not, of course, though they are trying their hardest to make it so, so I will stand up for my right to say, do, and believe what I please just like everyone else.

Aside from that, is atheism really something you could choose to change if you wanted to? You don't have to born with something to be stuck with it.

[stumpsforhands.livejournal.com]

I'm not saying the line isn't fine, I'm just saying there's a difference. Not all forms of discrimination are the same, and they shouldn't be treated the same.

[ceruleanst.livejournal.com]

I don't know. This should have nothing to do with the differences of how severe or prevalent the instances of past and present discrimination are for different groups. To say that what constitutes discrimination against a black person is different than what constitutes discrimination against an atheist person is to say that the human rights of two kinds of people are different, that a black theist and a white atheist do not have the same rights.

[stumpsforhands.livejournal.com]

It doesn't have anything to do with severity or prevalence. They're too difference kinds of discrimination. Surely you can see the difference between judging a person based on what the believe and judging a person based on their skin color.